@BichonBistro Oh no, I was really hoping for your sake that she was moving on. I’m not even sure what to say. Regardless of how you choose to approach this, deadlines and boundaries need to be communicated. The truth is, that this can get a whole lot worse and become even more time consuming than it has already. Of course it can go the other way as well - you may be able to finalize the design, convert to vector, and send it to print and embroidery with little issue. It just doesn’t seem realistic. Know your limits and communicate them as thoroughly as possible. I would suggest staying out of the printing and embroidery process if you get to that point - do not get roped into sending the files directly to print /embroidery companies or providing prepared files, because you will become the problem solver and point of contact. Honestly, if you have not told her that you would convert it to vector, than I would avoid that as well. Print and embroidery companies have prepress departments, let them convert it. She is lucky to be getting this much of your time for free.
@Nyrryl-Cadiz hm. . . I'd thought about portrait, but then I couldn't figure out how to keep his leg fully extended and still in the frame. . . but maybe I'll play around with it a little more. I've been finishing a different piece, so this one's been on the back burner this past week.
My eyes go to the woman's face first and then drop to the bird where they like to stay. So I am drawn to the bird more than the woman, I would say. I am wondering if you could add just a bit of white or color to the woman's hair, not much, but enough to bring my eyes back again since she is the main object you want to emphasize? I like the bluer sky in the first one in contrast to the woman, I think the woman pops more.
Now, I just took another look and I think I am drawn back to the woman more than I thought so, I guess I don't really know what I'm talking about The yellow eyes are what draws mw back. I love the colors and it looks good!
@chrisaakins I love the addition of the plane, it really finishes it off! There is an out of place line and dot on the arms of the smallest boy, and the father collar bone lines seem a bit out of place too. Otherwise, I really like the feel of this piece.
To Submit or Not to Submit
I'm trying to decide if I should submit this piece to Leanin' Tree by July 17th (or not). I thought I may as well include y'all in my mental dilemma because you might be interested in licensing to greeting card companies, too, and this may help you. (If you want to submit to Leanin' Tree, you must carefully follow their submission guidelines and calendar of submission themes, found on their website at www.LeaninTree.com)
On the one hand, by selling my designs on greeting cards I had printed by MOO (yes, like the sound a cow makes ) for a few years at about 10 regional retailers (but I'm down to 5 now due to stores closing) such as bookstores and grocery stores, I've earned over $5,000. My best-selling card designs have earned about $500 so far. If I were to print this design locally, for Halloween 2019 I would earn about $60 or more, after expenses were taken out. Some retailers pay me immediately when cards are put on shelves, regardless of sales.
On the other hand, I could submit this Halloween design on July 17, wait 4-8 weeks to hear back from Leanin' Tree (or most likely not hear back, after which time the guidelines said to assume it's not going to happen). If they want my design, I would sign a license agreement. Then the card might be changed or redesigned by other artists and given text or borders. By Halloween season of 2020, the company would have printed and distributed this card to retailers nationwide. Usually royalties are paid quarterly or at least after sales occur. Halloween falls into the 4th Quarter. Checks arrive typically within 30 days after the quarter ends. So IF Leanin' Tree wants to license the Pumpkinman design, I may receive a royalty check for (probably, based on research) 2-5% of sales, if sales do occur. No sales, no royalties. So I may or may not receive a check of an unknown amount in January 2021....long time from now. I don't know how to estimate what range I could earn from Leanin' Tree, without more information like how many of this design they would print and distribute.
The main reasons I want to license with Leanin' Tree are:
I have loved Leanin' Tree cards since I was a child, I've even saved many of the cards I received. They are my Disney of greeting cards and it would just be cool to see my art on their cards.
I live in a tiny house and want to explore licensing to companies with nationwide distribution rather than printing, storing, distributing cards from a (small) home.
I have no guess, but maybe I could earn more money if I licensed my artwork...I came to this conclusion after taking SVS class on licensing, taught by the amazing Guy Francis. But I saw some greeting card artists only get like $20-50 per card design.
The reasons I hesitate to pursue licensing is because I won't be able to earn any money from this design until 2021! And the design may be changed in a way that I don't want to be associated with it (changes may be great improvements, but in various ways discussed on SVS we know it can also be bad).
Should I submit this design to Leanin' Tree and try to license, or stick to selling it on my local cards???
Edit: I just submitted it, actually. I am having "cold feet" or something, but it's done now. I will let you all know how it goes if I do hear anything. Ultimately I decided that, even if I don't earn anything, it is totally worth it for the learning experience and in case it also helps anyone here on the forums!
This a follow-up to a post I shared a little bit ago, but I want to make sure there are no competing contrasts. So, I'm posting the values of what I added so far. The theme is that both characters are under water. I want to keep the overall look of the characters: the woman's darker skin and the bird's two-tones. My goal, however, is to make sure that the viewer looks at the woman first. Am I succeeding? Am I on the right track? If anyone has input on areas I can improve, I'm open to suggestions
Heres another chance to get your work featured on the SVSLearn homepage! We have been having so many great submissions that it is really hard to just pick one. If you have posted in the past and not been selected PLEASE consider posting again (even if it is the same images as before). If you have any thoughts or suggestions about this opportunity please feel free to share them as a comment or to send me a message!
This post is a place to share work if you want to get a chance to be featured in the Student Art Gallery on the SVSLearn.com homepage for September. To be considered share 1-2 of your best pieces (you can re-share an image you posted last month, but this is also a great opportunity to push yourself and add a new piece to your portfolio) on this forum post. Make sure to share your image by the 10th of August to be considered for September. Also, make sure your images are at least 800 pixels on the shortest side and do not exceed 1mb in size. If your illustration includes text on it please post a copy with and without the text on it.
Work will be selected based off of how well the work uses the following:
Concept: how well does your illustration convey a clear concept/story. Is it a unique approach? Does it make me want to know more about what is happening in the illustration?
Technique: How is the composition working? Does it have good use of lighting, rendering, mark making, etc.? Does the technique compliment the concept?
If you are selected, we will be emailing you using the email indicated on your forum account. Besides your art being displayed on the homepage, you will also be sent some questions for a Q&A blog post that will be shared on the SVSLearn blog.
I can't wait to see what everyone posts this month!
@cameroncole I like the way the Mum is just chilling sat in her chair...you get the feeling that if the son and father can't handle it then she can and it would involve that umbrella!! Great pic! p.s maybe change the colour of the car so it doesnt blend in with the background like @Chip-Valecek suggested?
The critiques today were great. I'm so grateful to have received some unexpected feedback on my piece. Thank you @Will-Terry and @Jake-Parker
A comparison and analysis of the before and after:
I rushed the original piece and didn't plan anything out, instead I just went for it, and I think that hurt my colors pretty bad. I also didn't sketch any of the rubble, just free-handed it with paint. I really need to plan things out ahead of time.
I originally edited the piece as little as possible digitally, as it felt like I was lying about the process if edited too much, which I now realize is a bit silly to think. It's whatever looks good, right?
Initially I went for depth of field with the destroyed skyscrapers, but failed. Added a bit more detail to the buildings, along with pushing the depth, but I think my new depth of field blur almost gives a miniature effect, which wasn't intended. I think not having something else for size reference is creating the illusion. Thought about adding some helicopters, or perhaps a iconic building that is still standing to strengthen the sense of size.
The guys said that brightening the bg could help overall. It really defined the shape of the big beasts head, as well as zilla himself.
To justify all the light around the beast I added smoke, which broke things up a bit, it made things a little more interesting to look at as well, and now it looks as if the beast is appearing through the thick smoke choked atmosphere.
When comparing the edit to the original, I see just how flat and boring it looked.
Feel free to critique.
Final complete! I'm really glad I went back to the drawing board and changed the composition. The final image came much more easily than the struggle of trying to make the old one work. Thanks everyone for your encouragement and feedback!
@RobinCampbellArt The wolf holding onto tree branches in order to hide himself himself is a fun addition, and it helps put across the story of him being sneaky. It is also more obvious now that the girl isn't looking at the wolf. It definitely reads more clearly now.
In order for the wolf to be more convincingly hidden, I wonder if it might help to have the woods be more dense with leaves - that way the wolf might be better camouflaged. Just a thought! I really love your idea behind this.