How to ink group run through FINALE! Yay!
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Okeedokee, my mind-blowing revelation from watching the 4 stages of drawing videos is something that everyone's probably gonna tilt their heads to the side at and go 'well DUH'.
If I look at one of Jake's drawings, there's a whole bunch of lines that I THINK are implying light and value, and ONLY light and value.
However, while Jake's inking, as he's drawing those lines that I think are there solely to imply a light source and for no other reason, Jake says 'and here's some texture'.
HERE'S SOME @*&^%ING TEXTURE.
What I thought was just shading from light, Mr. Parker was thinking of texture. And while implying texture IS based on a light source, this kinda shifts things around inking priority-wise in my brain if you get what I mean.
Mind blowing for me, routine for others, lol.
Hope that makes sense. If anyone's confused as to what the heck I'm talking about, lemme know and I'll post a picture of what I mean
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@Braden-Hallett I think I know what you mean. Not all lines and textures are creating light and shadow. They have other work to do. Like show form. That was a key learning for me in last week's lesson.
If I got it--great. If not, yes please a picture.
I'll post images tomorrow-and my sum up. Between prepping for the big event starting on tuesday...
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Yeah I realized this after watching Will Terrys painting textures videos. Although i never finished the homeworks. You cant have textures without shadows. I keep trying to capture that when im inking but i keep failing. Ill get it eventually.
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@Susan-Marks I may post a picture, yiss I think it's more that in my head I had the list of priorities all wrong. I would do contour, form and then start shading leaving no room for texture. When I should have been adding texture, and then polishing with a little bit of shading. What I thought was only shading was actually texture all along.
@Aleksey said in How to ink group run through FINALE! Yay!:
You cant have textures without shadows
Is true! But I think I need to think of that less, if you get what I mean. Right now I'm adding shadows to add shadows, when I should be adding shadows to add texture. It's... weird. But I think things have straightened out in my brain now
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I feel the same as @Aleksey . I am fumbling on the textures and the shadows. i think that I have gotten better, but i need way more practice. Which will be inktober. LOL.
I have to say, coming back after 5 days of not seeing everyones work everyday, and then seeing the last lessons results, I think that EVERYONE has improved dramatically. You all should be proud of yourselves. I know that it is common for artists to be hard on themselves, but you all are doing just fine. -
@burvantill i also sometimes forget that its a good idea to pull up a reference or 2. Like i was having trouble drawing soft pillows but once i pulled up a reference it became so easy.
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I think the most important thing I have learned from this course is to think before I put even the first line on the paper, especially if I am doing traditional ink. Every line can do so much that I really need to have the contours, texture, tone, and shading in my head (or penciled out) before I start to ink. Which is why the second most important thing I learned was about Tombow correction tape in Jake's list of materials!
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@Braden-Hallett I learned more specific strategies for inking in this 2.0 go-round. I think the thing that stood out to me is how to create form with contour lines and hatching along the edges.
I've tried to come up with a list and even a hierarchy or what is the job of a line.
See what you think:-
Create the exterior shape
a) remember if the shape is textured, use textured lines for those exterior lines -
Create form and volume by using cross-contour lines to wrap around the shape
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Thick lines: bring forward; for things that overlap shapes;
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Thin lines: define an edge; inside a shape; to make objects recede in space; shapes underneath
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Establish local value
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Add light and shadow after local value is established (altho if you want to show "light"--you need to consider this before you lay down that local value)
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Texture: lines to create texture can outline the shape; emphasize form by changing the size/shape of the texture; create shadow
I have an idea to take one of Jake's drawings in the pack--and try to go thru it planning the lines with the above list in mind.
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@demotlj I feel the same way! I have learned so much, but the most important lesson for me has been to think through a drawing completely before laying down ink. I think process is going to be important for me in the future - identify my highlights, shadows, and textures, and lay them down one at a time.
I lost a lot of time being sick for the past few days, so my final exercise for this class will be Inktober
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Sounds like everyone learned a lot (certainly some stuff I hadn't thought of )
I'll have to get a comparison thread going to showcase some before and afters
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@Braden-Hallett I think I learned that if I slow down and plan for my values and shapes, then the lines can sing. I also learned that people actually like my line art and that that is a strength for me. I also learned that I really need to work on color and creating digital art.
I also learned that the Marmot people hate it when you say I also learned six times and will beat you with heated blankets loaded with rotten mushrooms if you do. -
I didn't really have the time to do all the homework on this course but seeing as I was starting from pretty much zero inking experience I learned a lot lol. I think I had thought of inking as more of a line thing. But I learned how to do gradients and that was pretty cool Also how to do different textures. Also how the shape of a line can change the shape on the interior of the object, eg if I draw a cube but I make wavy lines inside of it, the cube looks skewed or wavy.......kinda blew my mind lol.
I like the idea of inking something from the drawing pack and posting online and tagging Jake, I might do that. I had done tacobot as practice but think I put it with recycling a few days ago when I was clearing up stuff rats! maybe it's still there!