Hidden WIP

  • Ok, I think I figured out what I am forgetting. There is basically no overlapping. When I don’t consider this, I think what tends to happen is that the indivual items in a piece have no relationship, or feel as though they are propped a certain way for the viewer. All of my succesful work has had succesful overlapping...I now realize that I totally ignored that aspect in this design.

  • @eric-castleman I don't think I'm far enough along in the experience category to offer meaningful suggestions for where you are. Personally, I'm refocusing my efforts toward more simplified work with the intention to get good at that then broaden my scope to more complexity as I go. I think your work is well beyond that stage. Maybe a small adjustment in how much you're trying to do could be the trick? Hopefully the experienced folk can encourage you in the right direction.

  • Oh, glad you could identify what the problem is. Maybe as you discover these things you tend to miss, put it on a list, so you can refer back that list if you get into a weird place again.

  • @tessaw yes, I just wrote down my steps on my thumbnail master copy lol.

  • Alrighty, so this is my fix. I decided to add in another guard. I think this helps sell the idea of the robber is hiding, as well as fixes the issue of very little overlapping going on. I am working in the value atm, but hopefully it comes out alright.


  • still WIP


  • might be hitting this with a bit too much back light idk


  • I definitely think the fixes the composition problems. The sightline of the hiding thief really moves your eye around the page now. I am not sure what is going on with the hand of the middle guy. What is he holding?

  • @eric-castleman I like the new addition. Not sure where that back light would be coming from on him, maybe turn the flashlight on the back ground. Also his facial expression almost seems that he is also trying to get away from the other guard. And (clears throat) add a guard hat on him 🙂

  • Well done to finish after the deadline. I'm doing the same!

  • @chip-valecek haha. Ya know, I was thinking that a bald night guard would drive you crazy.

  • Lol @Chip-Valecek I think he's right if you want them to look like security guards. Right now they look like mob men or some other kind of criminals.

    Suggestion: A large round flash light glare from the middle guy's flashlight, washing him out a bit? It will a) soften contrast on him and b) create a cool lighting effect, almost like we're in the scene.

    This is turning out pretty cool! I like your addition of baldy, it feels almost cinematic.


  • I'm wondering, how much sketchbook time are you getting? And specifically drawing from life? I find that I see the biggest jumps improvement in my composition etc. after I spend a good period of time drawing all the things around me. Taking my sketchbook with me everywhere, drawing restaurants drawing buildings drawing people in bars. Use a pen, keep it fast, but the act of paying attention to the big elements, the important things, perspective etc. will start bleeding into your work

  • @stringfellowart is my perspective off? I tend to always used warped perspective. Idk.

  • still gotta add the tie. Anywho, I like the lighting idea, and will probably bring that out more before I am done with this one.


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