October Third Thursday - let´s go!
Rich Green last edited by
@smceccarelli Fantastic thumbnail concepts - wow I hope I can get to this level of concept design someday.
I looked at these when you posted them yesterday and wanted to think it over before I voted. I came back and looked at them again today and I just am really drawn into #9 in the first set. Something about that one intrigues me the most.
From the second set - I am really torn between #2 and #5.
Can Not Wait to see which ever ones you choose to finish - I love watching your process!
mattramsey last edited by mattramsey
I like #2 & #3 for the Emerald city but I think #2 might be just slightly TOO skewed. Maybe dial the angle back a bit.
I really like what you've got going on for the arrival. Number #2 has the strongest boat comp (and it is really great!) but I think the other elements (particularly the crowd) are not as strong as the elements in #5.
I would merge the two.
EDIT: If you do that, I would recommend re-designing the tree in #5.
Thank you so much everyone for the great input!! I am on my phone and really can't type on this thing- I will definitely look carefully into your recommendations and suggestions as soon as I have a proper internet access!
A difficult birth later....I will probably end up doing more than one of these set, but for the moment I chose to go on with 9 of the first set. I like number 8 a lot, as pointed out by @Dulcie and @Kevin-Longueil and @ShereeNorthrup it could be a very interesting lighting concept but probably too far-fetched to read in the story as Emerald city (unless I rewrite the story to suit that concept) - but it may be a good wicked witch fortress concept....maybe with winged monkeys sitting on the branches...anyhow, I will keep it for a next piece.
I chose 9 in the end because I wanted the Emerald city to look imposing and impressive but disquieting and threatening at the same time - the low angle and the road sunk between walls of rock and vegetation seemed uncomfortable enough to suggest these feelings. Here is the near-final line.
Thoughts, suggestion, criticism are all welcome! It will take a few days before I move to the next steps...
evilrobot last edited by
This is amazing. Love all the details. Great work.
@smceccarelli This is so great! I think everything you are trying to get across is coming across. The only feedback i can come up with is that i do keep ending up on the Tin Man when i look at the drawing - i think there are a bunch of really small things that gets me stuck on him - ...they are so minor but i'll just list them here and you can ignore for sure ..... i think his right leg may be lilting too far to the left past his center axis so it looks a bit like he may topple over to the right - the parallel left arm and left leg seems unnatural - i think one or the other might be forward if he were walking - the object swinging in his left hand is cropped out in such a way as to make it mysterious - there is something tangential about the character in the background forming a parasol shape that rests on the Tin Man's head(this will be fixes with color and atmospheric perspective i'm sure) anyways i hope this is not annoying - they are such little things to mention and i'm possibly wrong really incredible piece !!
@Kevin-Longueil You have nailed nearly all the issues I saw in the drawing! ;-)) I have corrected all of the items you mention by re-drawing the tin-man completely, changing all limbs as well as the position of the head. It is really great that you saw the same issues, it gives me a lot of confidence, so thank you very much for your input!
There were also some issues with the lion, and with the perspective of the city. I am sure there are some more, but now the flatting process has started, so I will continue correcting while painting.
Next steps are color and value studies!
ShereeNorthrup last edited by
@smceccarelli I really get the feeling that you wanted to portray with this piece. Its looking great. Im excited to see it finished!
@ShereeNorthrup Thank you! I have been swamped by work the past three days and I am worried I can´t make the deadline for our own "Third Thursday". I have reserved the whole day tomorrow, lets see how far I come!
Ok - clear by now that I am going to make it by tomorrow...that is the problem with deadlines that are not "hard" - i..e. accountable to somebody else than yourself.
But, I am definitely going to finish this by end of the week, so I am not too disappointed with myself...
Here are color schemes - let me know which one you like best!
Joy Heyer last edited by
I like 6 the best. It really makes the Emerald City look...well...emerald. But really, all of them are amazing.
Dulcie last edited by
I like #2 the best...I like that it is a fairly simple colour scheme, unlike the others there are just spots of red/orange on the characters which helps focus attention on them and pick them out in all the green...on many of the other schemes the bright red flowers/plants draw attention away from the city and the characters....I like the overall greenness on #2, you feel enveloped in the greenery...but if you go with it you could also make sure that the emerald city has the highest saturation and contrast, to ensure it is the focal point.
@smceccarelli this look great Simona! - i will not quite hit my goal for tomorrow either - i am scrapping my Good Witch of the North so i should have only 3 of the 4 portraits done by tomorrow - i'll post what i have done Thursday and give my self till next Thursday to get my missing Witch in order - back to your piece though.... they all look promising - i have an overall feeling that the foreground might work better if it were darker and less saturated with the background becoming lighter and only having the mid ground be saturated because of the intense light in the back ground - anyways i tried my hand at it ... made a mask for the different depths and changed saturation and light level for each layer and the played with the gamma - not sure it is getting my idea across though (but i'll post it anyways) - i did have another though possibly worth sharing - page 164 of james gurney's Imaginative Realism book talks about counterchange - "counterchange is the reversal of tonal relationships between a form and its background that occurs from one end of the form to another. It's a useful way to generate a feeling of tonal movement" - i think this would look so awesome if you had the top of the Emerald City in shadow as though the sun were low or had the top lit and the bottom in shadow - i always love the look of counterchange in a painting though - anyways... very long winded this morning - the short answer is if i had to vote i would vote for number 2 or 5
lmrush last edited by
Great job on all your studies! Can't wait to see the final piece!
I decided to go for a modified number 3, which was one of the two top favorites from everybody I asked.
I had to start over twice and I am realizing that I have never painted a vegetation-laden scene before and it is amazingly time-consuming, and I do not really have a process to tackle this kind of thing. Which I guess is a good learning opportunity. Here is where I am now - I am doing what one of my teacher called "a window process", working on small patches at a time across the painting - which is really NOT how you should paint. I will have to leave a lot of time at the end to balance and unify whatever comes out of it. At the moment I am pretty much hating it, and I am not even half-way through....
@smceccarelli i was hoping you would post your process for this! I think it is looking very good!
Lee Holland last edited by
This looks like a great piece. @smceccarelli. This kind of environment is always a challenge and you have done a great job .