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@CLCanadyArts @BichonBistro I agree that she'd be an even bigger nightmare if she was paying! But this makes me wonder if she's under the impression that she's making you a favor by "letting you do her logo". This might explain the attitude and I wonder if there's a way to change that with subtle hints. Like in every email sneaking in a little phrase to the effect of "It's fun working on this little favor for you, I'm happy to help" or "I just wanted to warn you that I might take a few more days to get back to you with the changes, I'm sorry about that but I have a lot of paying work right now so I have to prioritize that over favors, I'm sure you understand." Mention it enough times, she might start to understand what the actual situation is...

@BichonBistro Oh Lord... facepalm I can only wish you best of luck with her, hun!

@BichonBistro I think it sounds like a good plan All the things you asked if they are acceptable to say seem acceptable to me - polite but firm.

When you talked about fonts I was reminded of something else to add here. This is a trick that one of my professors taught his class. Don't give your client too many choices, and never present them choices that you think are bad design. Because 9 times out of 10, they'll want the ugly version that you don't want your name associated with! So maybe you do 15 sketches, but you only pick your best 3-4 to show the client. Then of those 3-4, pick your favorite one and polish it up a bit more than the others. A bit more clean, a bit more shaded, all mistakes fixed, etc. Present all the designs on one page where your favorite is like 30% bigger than the others. Voila! This works like magic, they almost always go with the one you want!

great concept!

@Alicja-W very nice!

You may want to take a look at our new class from Vesper Stamper that talks about getting more saturation and luminosity in watercolor. Starting with a brighter undertone could really make these paintings glow.

Good luck and keep it up! : )

-Lee

You have a really great handle on perspective and composition. were you planning on taking this to color?

I love the compostion of number three, but love the story of 2

All great ideas!

@Amie thank you!

@thousandwrecks Swan is nice, but it's also its own point of focus and changing the entire composition. Personally I would have gone with something much more subtle like maybe adding some gold detailing/pattern to her dress. The illustration is already really nice, has a very strong composition, and it would be too bad messing with that. To me the problem of "the bottom part being boring" is actual a minor problem, because not every part of the illustration has to be packed with wow value. The focus isn't at the bottom, so it's quite okay if that part is a little more boring. Some detailing to her dress would be more than enough, in my opinion It's a great illustration!