Hohoho - Feedback?



  • Howdy friends! I'm back at it again!
    Do you have a quick moment for some feedback?

    What do you think about the axe? Does it feel awkward or inconsistent to you?
    How about the middle ground tones? Does it feel like it has enough depth (especially between Santa and the midground trees?)
    The values around Santa's axe arm and the trees are too similar, in my opinion.
    The space under the campers is meant for a holiday message ๐Ÿ™‚
    I'm thinking about adding a word balloon or something like that. I'm thinking "Hohoho" - likewise, I'm thinking about a name for the upside down boat - maybe "Holiday Surprise"? Ideas?
    Finally - the redscreen nightlight is skewing the colors a bit I've changed the settings but the computer hasn't responded to it, soooooo ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Thank you for your time! I really appreciate it!

    Best,
    Shani



  • Hmm maybe you could add more trees in the background so the evil santa claus/krampus/whatever blends in with the environment more? I think it would give a more sinister vibe if there was a figure that blended in naturally with its surroundings. A darker background would also give us better figure ground composition, where the campfire will be more pronounced. If that's too much, work maybe just darken it more.

    Also maybe the campfire lighting should reach more parts of the figure's body like it's shoulders, sack and maybe even it's ax?

    Maybe another detail you could add is tracks? For both the van and the monstrous figure?

    Overall, I think it's really great. The color harmony works very well.


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    @TheArtBard hi! Whatโ€™s this story about?



  • Thank you for the feedback @Michael-Angelo-Go! Super helpful! I'll be adjusting the image later today or tomorrow - so I'll definitely get back to you soon ๐Ÿ™‚
    As for the tracks - I experimented with footprints but it didn't translate well - I'll give it another go though, because it's obviously a missing element
    Thank you for the color harmony comment - I definitely kept your last bit of feedback in mind when I was deciding on colors (on the Hot Holy Snowman piece) - came in handy!
    Thank you again! I'll be posting the updated piece soon! You gave all very good feedback - thanks for your time!

    Till then,
    Best,
    Shani, The Art Bard

    PS - I think I saw you on LinkedIn - mayhaps we should connect?
    Happy holidays!



  • Howdy hey @Nyrryl-Cadiz! Thanks for your question ๐Ÿ™‚

    There's not too much of a back story with this piece - the goal is to lease these out as holiday cards. I suspect that there's a percentage of the holiday card market who's interested in some darker, humorous holiday scenes, hence the evil santa.
    The prompt is "unsuspecting campers, winter evening, trouble coming with a holiday theme". It's not really for a story, but I do enjoy putting narrative elements in my illustrations - the space below for a message is a courtesy to card manufacturers - does that make sense?

    Thanks for your question!
    Happy holidays @Nyrryl-Cadiz! ๐Ÿคถ


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    @TheArtBard I'm having trouble figuring out the monster's pose - which limbs are his legs and which are his arms for instance. The pose just isn't clear to me. Also feels a bit odd that he's holding the axe with the sharp part pointing outward. That's not a natural pose to hold an axe so it feels awkward. The fire could be radiating a lot more light than this, especially on the ground and characters.



  • I love the way you handled the mountains and trees in the background. I think it adds a lot of depth to the image, without becoming too overwhelming from the foreground.

    I agree with you that the values on Santa and the values of the midground trees are too similar. It distorts his silhouette and makes it more challenging to see his pose. Maybe separate the midground trees away from Santa so they don't overlap? As for the axe, I think it would naturally hang with the blade facing down, since the blade is the heaviest part.

    I really like the concept, and I like the design you gave Santa, with the bulky body and long lanky legs. It's unexpected in an interesting way.



  • Thank you all for the feedback! I haven't responded to everybody individually because I've been reworking the piece - everything y'all said was super helpful, and spoke to a lot of my insecurities with this piece! Thank you for your time and thoughtful responses! Below is an improved version as of tonight - may change it depending on feedback I might get

    -> I've increased the light intensity from the fire
    -> I've changed Santas arrangement, including the axe
    -> I've given the boat a name
    -> I added car tracks
    -> I added more mid ground trees to add depth
    -> I've added fire highlights onto Santa and the tall trees, as well as the foreground snow, and the people
    -> I put snow on the car and boat
    -> I added car tracks, but decided against footprints for santa because I'm having a hard time fitting them in
    -> I darkened the ambience, but I'm running into the same problem of similar values around santas axe arm and the trees behind it.
    -> I'm considering moving Santa around
    Of course this is a screenshot of the actual file (file is too big to upload) so I apologize for graininess.

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    Thaaaat's mostly it! I'd appreciate any feedback you have time for! Thank you for all the feedback y'all have already given! Very helpful!

    Happy holidays!
    Best,
    Shani



  • I think this is much better ArtBrad, I personally think the axe is okay because it's not as distracting or sticking out as much as that log from your previous drawing, but if it really bothers you all I can personally recommend is give it the same values as the ones you placed on his beard and face.

    Overall it's a great improvement!



  • @Michael-Angelo-Go Thank you so much! It's super helpful to get feedback from somebody who hasn't become numb to this image ๐Ÿคก especially around the axe area. Thank you for the kind words! I agree, definitely an improvement ๐Ÿ™‚
    Question - do you find the words on the boat hard to read? I was thinking about highlighting them more but I didn't want to distract from the focal points...

    Thank you!!! Have an excellent night ๐Ÿ™‚

    Best,
    Shani



  • @TheArtBard Eh I don't think highlighting the words are necessary. You always want to dum down the smaller details in your piece so the bigger picture sticks out more. It creates a better focus.



  • @TheArtBard hey, great image. Creepy as hell! Haha. I think the axe should be facing the other day (blade toward Santaโ€™s midline). Since you asked, the mid tone does seem pretty close to that of Santa. Maybe pushing it back a bit would separate those planes a bit better. All in all though itโ€™s a cool image! Nice work.


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    @TheArtBard hi! Iโ€™m seeing unsuspecting campers, winter evening, but Iโ€™m not seeing the Holiday theme because I canโ€™t tell if this looming giant is Santa Claus or not. Since this will be a card, why not center Santa claus. Have him looming over the campers. Let the light from their truck light the bottom part of Saint Nick just enough that we can see his red coat and him holding his axe. But cover his face in shadow and all we could see is his glowing evil eyes.



  • You can ad humor and story by adding a tiny dog noticing Santa and starting its defense - still unnoticed by campers.


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