10,000 bad drawings (200/10000)

  • @Heather-Boyd

    Story from the book Art & Fear by David Bayles and Ted Orland

    The ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality.

    His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot – albeit a perfect one – to get an “A”.

    Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes – the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.

  • @Shyam-Sailus thats actually quite a patronizing response to what was a helpful and considerate piece of advice from @Heather-Boyd.

    Keep working hard, you will definately improve. But without structure, you will improve more slowly, thats all she was saying. Im ok though thanks, i dont need a motivational allegory sent my way.

  • Hi @Shyam-Sailus I like this goal of crating 10,000 drawings. There’s a lot to be said about getting those pencil miles in. I want to back up @Heather-Boyd on this and suggest you try to find a little more focus on your 10k drawings, too. I like your example of the divided class, and I have no doubt that by just making 10,000 drawing you’ll improve a substantial amount.

    Ten thousand drawings is a bit of a vague goal. If you want to try and get a little more out of it, and possibly have better work in the end, maybe try to make some goals for yourself to go along with the 10k. If you’re wanting to make a career out of art or get a job, figure out what those could be and see how you can focus your drawings to that. Maybe something like “this 1k drawings will focus on figure drawing” or this “100 on perspective.”

    There is a trap you can easily fall into if you’re only focused on moving the pencil. I myself fell into this for a few years after college. Despite drawing and painting everyday for years I had very little work that I liked and no portfolio level work to show for it. Maybe a mix of both, you need some quality to go in with this giant amount of quantity.

    I wish you all the luck on your 10k drawings, this will be an exciting journey for you!

  • I think you have set a great goal and it seems to be working for you. Challenges are all about what you personally want to get out of it, and this is obviously what you want. Congratulations on your 100 drawing pages in 20 days. I see some from the classes here. I hope you are getting a lot out of them. Developing a process and a daily habit will both definitely benefit you. I am excited to see where you go in the next month. !!!!!!!

  • I love this idea! I am such a perfectionist that I am always scared to draw things and share them. I think because I won’t draw things in case they turn out bad, I am majorly missing out on some amazing works I could create. I have a giant project I’m working on (you can see it on the forum under HELP (Please😩) where I am going to be failing a lot and it is so hard and scary! Way to be brave! And don’t give up!!!

  • Totally agree with @Joanne-Roberts. 100 in 20 days, it s amazing! And they re not even bad! Keep up the good work!

  • Moderator

    This sounds familiar. I think the SVS Holy Trinity has touched on this topic in the past. What I get from it is, that it takes a lifetime to become a master at something and to just keep churning out your art, that you will get there. Keep a positive outlook on this project so you don't get burned out and know that even if you slow down, that every little bit you do will get you one step closer to your goal(s). I say goal(s) because it seems as soon as we artists get to what we think of as our goal, we immediately see a new one on the horizon. Good luck. =)x

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  • I dont understand this.
    so if you get to 10000 your drawings will then always be appealing?

    to me all my drawings are bad, because i don't care about appeal yet, because i'm learning. when I think i've got the foundations right, i can try to work on my appeal. I mean as in constant drawing.

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  • @arielg even when you are working on the fundamentals, your lines will get better, your understanding and ability to draw shapes in perspective to form will improve and so what you mean by appeal will grow over time. I don't understand drawing and learning the fundamentals as separate from visual appeal, just a progression forward. @Shyam-Sailus is drawing 10,000 works to keep on moving forward, understanding and applying on the go. That's my impression at least.

  • @Heather-Boyd well its obvious that someone not learning the fundamentals and doing 10k will improve much less than a guy who is actually doing the job, which is much harder. doesn't necessarily mean the first guy wont improve, but he will have much less understanding and thus more probable less improvement.

    my question was - why is the need for 10k bad drawings? its very dependent on your attitude when you draw.
    it sounds like every drawing should be bad. why? and also why should a drawing be any good if you haven't got fundamentals yet? well it can.
    I just don't understand the purpose of all this. there are marathons of iteration, like draw 100 faces. or 100 eyes. or 250 boxes/cylinders.
    which focus on improvement. this 10k bad drawings seem to focus on continued bad drawing?? can you explain this...?

  • SVS OG

    @arielg I believe it's called 10,000 bad drawings in order to remove the pressure on the artist to make good work. it gives artists the permission to screw up, experiment, and have fun. In my opinion, the right title should be just '10,000 drawings'. it could be bad, it could be good. The quality is not important.

  • @Nyrryl-Cadiz oh. that title though is misleading.

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