3rd Thursday Naughty Children FINAL
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@bharris Such great work. I really like the latest updates. Your line work is so great!
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The second one is more interesting and active. But they both look really great , IMHO. Really nice work.
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Hey all, finished the tone and it was my first time working like this. I feel pretty good about it, but is there anything that is obviously wrong or that may need more lightening or darkening? Thanks for the feed back!
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@bharris This is such a good drawing. Its so interesting to look at with only B/W tones added to it. The painting is sure to be great once some color has added to it.
If I was being really critical I would say that there needs to be some stronger contrast between Santa and the kid standing right behind him. Also, there is a tangent formed between the one horn of the set that kid is wearing and the edge of Santa's belt. The middle ground and foreground all seem to be of the same contrast and value. That front tree on the right side needs to be a darker value to pull it forward and push the middle ground back. Overall there needs to be, in my opinion, some stronger areas of contrast and value to really punch out certain characters and props.
This could be one of the winners!
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@Rob-Smith Thank you Rob! I didn't see that with the belt! I will work on that contrast, it looks kind of dull as is! I was struggling with that and wondering how the color would look when laid over something really dark. I usually work straight from color and not in gray scale, but I'm liking the effect more!
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@bharris @Will-Terry will add a multiply layer over the value layer to set the color of the image (see his digital painting video) and then paints opaque on top of that. You could also just use the value layer as a guide for your color. Don't be afraid to add some really strong values.
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I agree with @Rob-Smith ...both about the wonderful drawing (it is really so nice to look at just as it is!) and suggestions to improve it. I wonder if the rear end of the sledge could be darker....you could push that a bit more.. Also the area in the background with the house, and the distant trees, if those areas are lighter in value it will heighten the sense of it being further away. Santa is a really important figure so you want to make the contrast between light & dark on him quite strong, though not OTT of course, so he will stand out more. Your piece has a really beautiful sense of distant ground, middle ground and foreground in the way you draw it, so if you can make the values match that, it will be even more amazing!
Sorry hope that's not too long-winded & that it makes sense....finally wanted to say I love that you have given some of the children reindeer antlers too!
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@Dulcie Thank you very much! Yeah I am playing with those values now. The hard part is just having it be a night drawing and trying to figure how soft to make things and trying to envision what I can do with the color to heighten it.
No you're not long winded! I always appreciate your feed back, you're spot on!
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Any better?
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@bharris Great illustration, so much fun can' wait to see it in color.
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How is this lighting and color scheme working? I'm struggling with the back two girls and the one in front of Santa; their clothes need to contrast but not take up a whole lot of attention...
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@bharris maybe " cool " them out like the tree on the corner of the house?
Edit: I did this real fast, and left their faces shining, which maybe good be a tad brighter, I'll leave that up to you.
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@Bobby-Aquitania I'll try it. I've been shying away from it because I didn't want to lose them completely, but no other warm colors worked for me here.
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You can go a lot bolder with this. I just duplicated the image and changed the top to a vivid light blending mode. It darkened and brightened the areas. I'm not say that's the technique you should use to change it, because you'd have to flatten the whole image but it's just to show that it needs more contrast. And watch out for the airbrush. Your shadows are very blurry and kind of "fuzzing off" the edges of your subjects. It's making it all murky. Lee told me that cast shadows are 2 shades darker than the local color and they have harder edges. Form shadows are soft.
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@gimmehummus I figured that once I started really laying on the color it would saturate it and I'd play with the brightness, but you're so right. I'll deepen those cast shadows. It a little hard with all the light sources to know how dark to go.
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That window is so bright now, the kids look like they're about to be War of the Worlds vaporized! BWWWAAANGGHHH!!!
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Naughty kids get vaporized in the presence of Christmas magic. Lol.
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@bharris This is such a nice piece! - one thing that I would say critique wise is that the focal point is going to be in the gutter of the book - I think too that it may be a little crowded in the space between Santa and the sleigh - would it be worth looking at to move Santa's side of the composition to the left a bit? - possibly bringing the little girl that is sticking her tongue out to the left also - the other thing I was wondering is about Santa's eye - will he get an eye?.....I think not having the eye leaves the image too open to projections - if you can define Santa's attitude for us it would remove the tension I feel there - for me I want him to be good natured and twinkly eyed in his attitude...but this may not be your intent ....he may be upbraiding the children...not sure though - anyways I really like your piece and it does look good the way it is
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@Kevin-Longueil I will add an eye on Santa!Thank you! I realize now that those areas were too close, and it'd be easy to make larger if it was going into a book, but I really don't want to try to move those layers this late in the game.... laziness...
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I've brightened the colors a lot and tried to warm up the lights. I still have to go over the details and highlights to really paint and define things. Is this working alright? I'm trying not to wash things out with color (I'm a color person anyway) and have a few good focal points across the page.
