Inktober Book Plagerism Accusations
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@hakepe I feel the same.. even if he had a real issue he went about it in completely the wrong way - gave no opportunity for a discussion with the artist and just went straight to blasting loudly on the internet. It really made me angry considering the trend to ‘cancel’ people online - no consideration for the possible repercussions of his actions in the case that Mr. Parker is found at no fault (and I do believe he is at no fault)
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Hello everyone!
I've been lurking in SVS since the first podcasts episodes.
Today I chose to join because I find stability in this community out of the social media noise that been storming lately because of Dunn's allegations on @Jake-Parker 's upcoming book. When I found out someone shared earlier the emailed prompt list, I communicated to the Inktober team.
Thank you, @Lee-White for hosting this thread!
Everyone, I find amazing to read your posts. I've been sharing via twitter the current video by Kesh, but now I need a break from it to focus on my weasel (I shared it yesterday via twitter.
And is true, in the beginning I was heartbroken about the matter because I admire Jake a lot since I subscribed to his YouTube channel. Most likely found his channel when I searched about if was okay do fan art and share it just for fun, then Your Creative Bank Account video hooked me.
From reading and watching, I understood that is not in our hands this situation. Instead to stress ourselves on this matter, we should keep creating something amazing, motivated by what we learned from our artist role models. I think is the right thing to do while they solve it, right?
Let me share you a personal confession. I used to hold back a pair of times about social exposure of my artistic journey, but thank to @Jake-Parker , @Will-Terry , and @Lee-White, I chose to move forward and learn from others as well from my personal experience.
So, let us keep creating something amazing!Wishing you the best,
RafaNote: I am going be editing it too because English is not my first language, sorry, but Spanish. Thank you!
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@Shyam-Sailus thank you for sharing the video by Kesh. I really appreciate his message towards the end of the video To quote him here:
"People make mistakes. Does not matter who make mistakes. If any one of them came out to be right, I really hope you forgive the other person. Because we all make mistakes." -
Personally, as it's been articulated here, I feel accuser has made an unwarranted proprietary claim on basic fundamentals of art that have been published over and over for years.
I've been trying to hold back my opinions (on social networks) and let the lawyers and copyright specialists work this out. I feel that this is clearly a situation about different points-of-view. The problem with sharing accusations like that online, is how quickly the information, especially the wrong information, gets spread and trolled through social media. It's the game of telephone, but with severe consequences.
For example, I posted the 2020 Inktober prompt list on my personal IG account, and one of my 'friends' posted this:
"Unfortunately the man who runs Inktober plagiarized a black artist in his book AND sued successful artists participating in this event for money. I won’t be participating this year."
I gave her clarification, but I feel the damage has been done AND on a larger scale.
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@dickdavid Exactly, people are getting their facts SO wrong and rushing to cancel a human being and Inktober over half-baked assumptions. It's maddening to see this unfold, and it's really scary to see how precarious all of our careers are. We're all one misunderstanding away from losing it all.
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So far from what I've seen it seems that a lot of the people that think Jake is guilty of something already have a bias against him due to the issues with the rights to InkTober that Jake acquired. I don't know a lot about that, I know it caused some drama and some legal issues for some artists. But it seems that has primed a lot of people into thinking Jake is sleazy and would do something like this, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt and waiting until more evidence was presented. They already seem to dislike him and I know from actual experience it doesn't take much to give someone a bad name on the internet, it's a mob, and all most people need is a reason, they don't actually look up the issue themselves or find the truth of the matter. Once it's out there, it spreads like wildfire and you're stuck with the consequences of that. This is why I really dislike how Alphonso went about this.
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@George-Broussard Thanks for watching the video and for the thoughtful response! You're right, and that's a pretty daunting future no matter what happens. I hope Jake will be ok
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@danielerossi Thanks for watching it! Ahaha, I got that bit from Ethan Becker, who is an excellent art YouTuber. Very funny guy and great teacher.
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@Blitz55 People seem to have a bias against Jake for 2 previous incidents/scandals that were really nothing burgers.
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The digital art vs. traditional art scandal. Several years ago when people started doing digital art for Inktober, Jake said that originally the point of Inktober was to make time to practice traditional ink techniques and so it's not the ideal time/event to do digital art. People ran with it and thought he said that digital art isn't real art, and was bashing digital art. No matter how many times he tried to respectfully explain that digital art is rad and he does a lot of it himself, it's just this particular event happens to be challenging you to ink traditionally, some still think he bashed digital artists.
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The trademarking controversy. A couple years ago, Jake trademarked the Inktober name and logo in order to protect people from using it to sell T-shirts and stuff, and also to allow him to create an Inktober book and partner up with different companies to create official merch. This eventually led to some artists receiving DMCA notices if they were using the Inktober name or logo to sell their Inktober related zines or other products. Jake worked with those artists to allow them to keep selling their products, just remove the logo from it. They were also allowed to use the Inktober name in a subtitle, just not the main title (for instance "Black and white: an Inktober zine by John Smith" was allowed). Sadly there was a huge outcry because of an overwhelming lack of understanding of the situation, of how copyrights and trademarks work and Jake's intentions. A lot of people think he outright sued people who participated in Inktober in order to make money off other people's art. Some people still believe you can get sued for selling your Inktober prints, or even just using the Inktober hashtag. It's of course ridiculous because a) DMCAs are not suing, to my knowledge Jake has never sued anyone and b) his trademark only protects the NAME (as main title of whatever you want to sell) and his logo, not the concept of Inktober itself. And still again some people believe that Jake did not create Inktober, the community built up Inktober and it is public domain, and Jake is trying to appropriate something that does not belong to him.
That in a nutshell is the explanation of the silly misunderstandings that people are using to base their whole opinion of Jake... The most ridiculous thing is that most people going after Jake for what they believe is copyright infringement of Dunn, also are the same ones thinking he is a bad person for attempting to prevent copyright infringement of his own Inktober logo. They're not making sense whatsoever. Most of these people have no understanding of copyright law, are only vaguely aware of rumors they heard on the internet and are using these tenuous "facts" to make up their minds that Jake is an awful person who has now been caught plagiarizing and they're not surprised. It's insanity. This could happen to anyone through no fault of their own...
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I just ran into a kinda-sorta similar situation last night! I was working on a few thumbnail sketches for ideas for “Fish”, the first Inktober prompt. After trying a few different scenarios, I settled on a tiger looking into a fish market window. The sketch I drew is from the perspective of looking at the tiger from the inside of the fish market. I liked what I drew so I — of course — fire up Instagram to share with the world.
You know how Instagram shows you the latest photo in your news feed when you open it up? What I saw made my mouth drop. A friend of mine in Japan DREW THE SAME THING! Except hers is of a pig looking into a donut shop window. Both of our layouts were the same. Food at the bottom, hands on window, lots of white space above the animal’s head. Uncanny.
Neither of us knew we were drawing anything about fish or animals or donuts or whatever. We don’t even keep in touch on a daily basis. As far as I know, I don’t think she’s participating in Inktober (or at least, I haven’t seen anything related to a fish prompt in her illustration).
I admit, anxiety got the best of me as this reminded me of the Alphonso/Jake thing. So — to make sure — I sent her a private message with her illustration and mine along with a note saying how I had just made this drawing when hers happened pop up in my news feed.
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What has amazed me is that, even though people say they aren't sticking around with Inktober and Jake, they feel the need to do just that and bash anyone who still participates. "I'm unfollowing you." or things similar to it run rampent in comments. My opinion has always been "Okay, that's your business..." Why people feel the need to make a big production about posting how they will no longer participate in anything has always baffled me.
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@NessIllustration That is a great breakdown, thanks for taking the time to write that out. I may even use that info to pass on to others I know who don't understand the situation so well.
I typically feel that most of that had to have been a misunderstanding. I've seen it stated as "Jake sicking his lawyers on people" which sounds so misleading and wrong. I don't know Jake personally though I've had the chance to meet him a few times at ECCC and through that and all his public videos and work I have yet to ever see something that makes me think this is a shady guy, this is the kind of guy out to get his and to hell with other artists.
But, people take misleading information and run with it on the internet. I was part of something like that and saw first hand how a fabricated story by a random person on a forum completely destroyed the work of one of my best friends simply because people took this person at their word and never bothered to actually look into the matter. It's freaking pathetic how that always seems to be the case.
Thank you once again.
Gave you a follow on Instagram too, nice work. I like your mushrooms. haha -
@lpetiti said in Inktober Book Plagerism Accusations:
What has amazed me is that, even though people say they aren't sticking around with Inktober and Jake, they feel the need to do just that and bash anyone who still participates. "I'm unfollowing you." or things similar to it run rampent in comments. My opinion has always been "Okay, that's your business..." Why people feel the need to make a big production about posting how they will no longer participate in anything has always baffled me.
thats how it alway works. people dont like something and want other people to not like it too. in this case for sure with the additional mindsetting that they have to let the people know the "truth" for them to follow theire path because why else would the prompt lists still get so many likes. it must be that people dont know and not just that they either side with him, dont care or whatever.
i just wait for the first people claiming he copied alphonsos stuff with the new indigogo easy sketchbook "mirror" device
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@danielerossi Oh my gosh. I sketched this yesterday in preparation for my first go at Inktober.
I guess we should not be surprised..it was literally my first ..well, second thought. Now I'm curious how many of these there will be! -
@Molambo I had a friend tell me "you're aware of his plagiarism right? We discovered that he stole work. Just be aware of it when you post with the hashtag".
The way people think we're ignorant of accusations just because we dont buy into them is...mind boggling.
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@NessIllustration You articulated it so well. Just like what Kesh said in his video with regards to people criticizing Jake for “lawyering up”: In what kind of la la cuckoo land do they live in?...
The event is called Inktober and not Digitober... and I still used multiple types of medium and hastaged Inktober and the world did not end.
Do artists think they can just use someone else’s logo without permission?
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@djlambson Hahahahaha this is so funny, scary, and cool at the same time
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@danielerossi Agreed! crazy.
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@djlambson All of you are plagiarists apparently haha!
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@lpetiti yeah, i really wonder when the innocent till proven guilty thing changed. based on the last insta post from alphonso the thing will not be done in a shot amount of time. i really wonder how this will end, book itself is still listed on amazon.