Getting an Agent was bad for me.
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@Jason-Crowley it's kind of you to say mate but I wouldn't say there is no hope for you! Our styles are different and there will be opportunities for you, it's just a case of when. It's funny you should mention concept art for games because that's kind of where I've come from. Well, sort of. I did game art at university, then had a spate of freelance concept gigs. But I think I've realised I don't like making other people's stuff! Ha. It's going to have to be my own stories. Have you ever considered doing a short story/novel that is illustrated? Might fit your story idea better than a picture book?
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@MarcRobinson Like a chapter book? I hadn't considered that, but drawing in black and white appeals because I struggle with colour. Apparently, according to SCBWI, chapter books aren't doing well, I guess because kids are more into their phones than reading. I've been thinking of learning to write screenplays and submit the ideas for film/tv, which skips over the illustration part completely...
That's funny about you starting out in game art, I hear you about just wanting to do your own thing. I have a lot of game ideas but I don't have time to learn C# to build them.
Good luck with your next agent and comic!
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@MarcRobinson hi Marc! I’m so sorry to hear that. Lemonade is similar to my previous agency Advocate. It’s absolutely their fault you’re not getting any jobs. They take on too many artists and they can’t find jobs for all of them much less give them the proper time and attention. And you’re saying they didn’t even give you helpful art direction. Given how they mentioned they took you on because of your multiple styles makes me think they were hoping to have you on so that you can stand in for any projects their top illustrators might pass over. I hate agencies like them. Looking at your work, I think you would’ve done well with book covers for older kids and you might’ve made it too had they put in the leg work.
I hope things get better for you. If working on your own stuff gives you the satisfaction you need, then definitely focus on that. We’re excited to see what you make. Anyway, all the best!
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Marc, I really admire your artwork and how hard you've worked to level up through all the SVS challenges. You churn out stuff and it's always so good! I always look forward to seeing your pieces when they come out.
It sounds like the comic-con route is still a great option for you. In fact, you should come to the Belfast one next year, I'll buy a book and a pin!
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@Nyrryl-Cadiz thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement. Sorry to hear you had a similar experience with the other agency. Book covers are something I'm very open to, but I've always wondered what sort of agent I'd need. A literary agent or just an illustration agency? I need to change my agency either way I guess.
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@Tom-Harshberger ha thanks mate I appreciate it! It's been a while since I've tabled at a convention but if I get up near Belfast I'll make sure to let you know! The last couple I went to were Thought Bubble in Leeds and the Lakes festival just before covid. Once I get a book finished I'll re-apply.
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@MarcRobinson both could do the job but you need to read their profile and see if they specialize in picture books, or middlegrade and chapter books. Go for the one who does middlegrade and chapter books.
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@Nyrryl-Cadiz you're a star, thank you.
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@Lynniesketches hey thank you for sharing. It's easy to fall into trying to create stuff to fit in, but I think it often shows in the work, even on a subconscious level. I ALWAYS create better illustrations when I make it on my own terms. I think this self publish pro course looks amazing and one day I might be able to save for it. Until then I'm going to try and go my own way. I'm sorry to hear you had a similar experience with your agency, and you're right that it appears to be more common than a lot of people assume. I'm hoping if I create a newer portfolio with stuff that I love to do in it, then the right agent for me will pick it up. Maybe that approach would work for you too.
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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for sharing your experiences and thoughts. I have just left my agent today, and it's time to take stock and re-evaluate what I'm doing and why. I need to be more focused and intentional.
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@MarcRobinson Marc, it's admirable that you had the courage to make a decision that feels right! Big cheers for the future, and I’m sure everything will fall into place in time.
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@Enni-Heikura thank you.
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@MarcRobinson Thank you for sharing your story. I think it took a lot of courage to discuss it. I am wishing for a more fruitful journey ahead for you, and it sounds like the experience has validated your gut feelings. I feel compelled to caution you that people can read forum posts without logging in so you might wish to **** the name of the agency if you didn't want word to get back to them about it somehow (I only had to log in to comment/react). Maybe if people want to know the name they can message you.
Again thanks, I draw inspiration and support from Rabbits like you every time I visit the forum.studiojcd.com
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@jenn thank you Jen, I've removed the agency name from my original post. Good idea.
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@MarcRobinson said in Getting an Agent was bad for me.:
I would love to do the Self Publish Pro course, but at the moment I can't really afford it
In case you haven't seen these, Will Terry has a couple of books that might be helpful:
'What They Don't Teach in Art School' & 'The Complete Kickstarter Playbook'
Both books are available on Etsy in multiple formats, or use the link above for Amazon.
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@Miriam hey thanks! Going to check those out now.
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@MarcRobinson thank you for sharing your experience. As probably many of us feel at the beginning, being represented sounds like the ideal goal that will push us to another level, but indeed it seems to not always be the case.
I don’t have experience with agencies, but I just wanted to comment to say that it sounds like your gut is telling you what is best for you. Working on projects that you will be excited, and for what you say about the conventions seems like people enjoy, I think it’s great because you have a “brand”, a specific style that gives you an advantage. -
@Mariana-B thanks Marian a, I'm definitely going to go with my gut on this. An agent definitely seems to not be a quick fix, and in my case it wasn't a good fit.
