@darian said in Inktober lands me a job! I need your advice :
Greetings @nadyart !
Thank you for sharing your in-depth response, experience and guidance!
You are right about the copyrights clause being contradictory with full ownership & partial ownership. I will ask them about it.
Would licensing a couple of artworks for a specific fee, be a better workaround?
I am not looking to sell the copyright as I am looking to open a store on sites like society6 and set up art prints there. I would love to set up a shop without third parties especially sites like society6 requires 50% of the earnings. Can you kindly recommend a way to go about it or some sources I could learn from? That would be great!
I will write to them asking about the process of returning the legal ownership. I have never heard about a return of legal ownership so I can surely learn something from this situation. Shall research about it too. Good point on the payback of funds too! Thank you
Yes, 15%-50% is a wide range. So it gets vague in terms of earnings so I will have to negotiate a tighter percentage range. Maybe 30%-50% ? Yes, they want to own the design & pay a percentage of the earnings (royalties) without a purchase fee.
Good point again. If there will be image alteration involved and I will be credited for the design, if it doesn't fit with my artistic aesthetics..that's like sinking my ship I guess. Maybe I can ask them to share the alterations & they can only be approved by me (It's probably a long shot but I could try it out).
I will ask them about the projected sales as they haven't mentioned anything about it. The thing about background research is that I looked up the name of the company and only a link showed up of a site with a home page that says 'coming soon'. They are probably starting up. What I can do is ask them more about their company, artists they have worked with & an example of their sales in case I'm off with my research.
Yes, Paypal takes 2-3% for payment transactions & other sites do something similar..I'm not in the US & with 50% going to third party online stores, it becomes expensive. It sounds better to have your own store..will have to figure how that works..congratulations to you on achieving that success!
This has simply been great. Thank you so much Nadya for your nuggets of wisdom!
Thank you for your precious time!
I also like how welcoming and pleasing your art is.
More power to You,
You're Welcome @Darian! Maybe it is a good idea to licence a small amount of artworks for a fixed fee, plus an agreed royalty percentage?
If you like to sell the artworks on Society6 or your own shop and other sites it is very important to have clear agreements on the licensing. You must be certain you can sell the design elsewhere,. Maybe they like to keep the designs exclusive and a platform like Society6 can be viewed as competition. Yet maybe they don't mind you selling your own artwork; I'd work the specifics out beforehand though. This is exactly what happened in my situation with one of the companies I designed pillows for. I had not understood from the contract they owned my work and when I wanted to sell it, it was pointed out to me. You learn a lot from these experiences though, and everyone will go through a few to find out what it is you think is important for your own manner of working :).
To answer your question about setting up a shop; there are multiple ways to go about this and the best choice/platform for you depends on the time you wish to spend on it I think. There are also monetary factors weighing in of course.
Platforms like Society6, Red Bubble, Zazzle and INPRNT for example take all of the work as far as printing, shipping and customer support goes out of your hands. You're just responsible for your design (and a some branding imaging for your shop). You don't get a very large percentage of the earnings on the other hand. You can Google for differences in earnings among these platforms and I think S6 comes out as one of the least paying platforms. You can take matter into your own hands and start your own shop, i.e: Etsy, Shopify, Amazon, or build your own shop (from scratch / hire someone / use a host like Squarespace with built-in templates).
You can find a lot about the pro's and con's about each platform online, i.e.: http://shopkeeperhq.com/2017/04/26/pod-or-etsy-or-shopify-which-is-better/.
Personally I run an Etsy store. They have a large clientbase all over the world and if you use SEO, photography etc. to your advantage, you can make decent sales. I drive the largest part of the traffic there through social media though. I like the system and the fact that I can be in total control of the quality of the products I print and ship. I can apply my own branding to everything and give a personal touch to each shipment. I also like to have the personal communication with my client where need be as opposed to a platform like S6 where you have nothing to do with the customers. *Edit: there are definately some cons to Etsy too, I'm aware of that :). I will be starting a standalone shop in the next year next to Etsy too. But I keep my Etsy store since it's just a popular website for a lot of clients in the USA. Some cons are the algorithm can be a bit questionable at times and their seller fees have gone up quite a bit. Yet I find if you take this into consideration when pricing your work, this doesn't need to be an obstacle. I'm sure there will be people that disagree, as with every platform :). So maybe try one or two things and see what you like most!
I can talk about this for hours, so I'll stop right here ;-).
I hope their endeavors will be successful and you get to have a part of that and under the right conditions, that is very exciting!!