I don't think there is much flexibility with the values of the piece, which is probably a good thing. I have tried out a few color studies as well. Any thoughts on ones that jump out at you?
@nyrrylcadiz Very late to this, but first I wanted to say that I really like the piece you did with the flying dog
Going back to your original concepts, I think that 1 had the best read. I also liked 3 as I thought it was a nice snapshot into a bigger story.
I don't think that you needed to expand the frame to include the other objects and monsters in no.1, as it feels like there is too much story and the main concept has been lost somewhat.
the new sketch of the kid been told off by his parents is also very promising, but perhaps it would work better in portrait rather than landscape as the composition is getting divided up into quarters.
In regards to the cat and mice one, i'm not exactly sure what the story is about. On first read it kinda reminded me of the crazy cat lady from the simpsons who throws cats at the children. I don't know if you decided to veer away from the competition title (which is fine if you have a great concept) but is the cat good or bad and which character is misunderstood? Also why is the candy/chocolate she is holding in the shape of mice? Is it following the same story of hansel and gretel or is the cat witch (?) actually nice and the mice just got shocked and decided to run away once they saw the chocolate mice.
I love the design you did of the house, but it has much more detail than the foreground elements which I feel is causing issues with the composition. I would much rather see the characters much closer to the house and interacting with it in some way as it seems a shame to be just used as a background object.
In regards to the lighting, it depends on what is the story you are trying to tell. I don't think that either lighting scheme helps narrate the story and I would go back to working on it in black and white to do a few value studies first, rather than working on the details before the main idea has been told.
I hope this critique didn't come off as super negative. I think you have the skill set to get a great piece done and it feels like you are spending a lot of time working on the details before the foundation has been built.
I completely understand what you mean and I feel in a similar boat at the moment. Whenever it happens though I try to go back to the fundamentals or learn through tutorials. We aren't machines and sometimes just need that extra bit of oil or solar energy
@lauraa I was thinking to make the child a little older, but I think it wouldn't have the same effect and the concept would have to change. I was thinking the "misunderstood" part is more aimed at the viewer than the baby.
@hannahmccaffery thank you hannah. I'm a little worried that the worried expression may not translate well with the light added in, but hopefully I can try make it work.
@Chip-Valecek great minds think alike I was originally going to have the monster under the bed tucking in a kid or maybe reading him a story, but I couldn't seem to get it to read well
Played around with a few different ideas, and keep coming back to this one, so I think I will take it forward. Nothing super original, but playing with the idea that sometimes the monster hiding in your room isn't so scary. I think the monster might need some work especially on it's face design, but I want to try and keep the tentacles so they can hold many different props
Are you looking for feedback in regards to the character design,the story itself or just this image?
I really like the style of this piece and I think the king look great, but the queen doesn't seem to fit in as well. She almost feels like she was created in a separate style. I think that this might be because the king has such a strong pose and is slightly turned, whereas she is straight on to the viewer. There is also something about her head that doesn't fit well with her body, it could be slightly too large and not aligned well enough (the long neck could also be something to think about.
As for the story idea, the idea of a king and queen going on an adventure to adopt a child wouldn't be something I would feel emotionally connected to and although it's a different idea, the thought of a rich and powerful couple in search of a child wouldn't be a story I would tell my children (however I may just be old and cynical). This is just a first impression though and I could be completely wrong about the story.
Hi Mike, I like the website and the work on it. A few things that stood out to me though were:
There is a lot of empty space on both the left and right side of your page. Would it be possible to use all of that space, allowing the preview images to be larger?
I think the hearts (likes?) are a bit of a distraction and i'm not really sure of their use.
When clicking on a image again there is a lot of white space to the right with only a small amount of text for each piece. How about having the text underneath the image and have the illustration more central?
(I am viewing your website using firefox on my computer)
I think I got a little closer to finding out the issue. When I look at the image in firefox on the forum it's more yellow, but in chrome it's as it should be. On my website both images are the same no matter the browser, but strangely different on the forums.....
Wow thank you for so many people taking the time to comment and give advice, it's been really helpful.
@smceccarelli - great advice and I think you picked up on all the things I was feeling uncomfortable about. The foreground trees are definitely something that I need to scrap and readjust and i'm playing with a few different ideas to achieve that now. Thank you for your help.
@hannahmccaffery - mixing in more green and blues sounds like that would definitely help. I originally had the bird on the top of the piano but I felt that it drew too much attention. I think i'm going to scrap that bird anyhow and maybe have it flying around instead.
@demotlj - yeah the symmetry isn't working so well. Sometimes things that looked good in the sketch don't seem to work when you start painting
@Art-of-B - I'll get out my axe and start chopping down some trees Also thank you for taking the time to do the paintover. Although the way I am going with the image doesn't follow that exactly it really helped me move forward with it!
@Kevin-Longueil - You're right the boy/girl (i'm never sure which) is too close to the edge. I'll try re position the characters to balance it out a bit better.
@juliepeelart I understand what you mean about the piano's position, but the client wanted it to be in the center of the image, so I tried to accommodate that as best as I could.
@Teju-Abiola I think the blue light is probably one of the reasons for the more sombre mood, but I hope by the end it will evoke a more happier feeling even if it isn't as light as my other pieces.
@NessIllustration the foreground and background light are a bit too even and definitely need better re balancing. I did want to add objects to that foreground plane, but it didn't work as well as I thought
@LauraA thank you for the comments Laura, and I'm pleased you like the colors Foliage is probably a better choice than trunks. As others mentioned they are too heavy and making the image too tight in it's composition and they will be trimmed back as I try resolve the image.
@rcartwright my original idea was to have it just as a simple ground plane without a background but the client wanted a surrounded by the forest type of setting. I might tone down the background a bit more before it's finished though.
@holleywilliamson great catch I didn't even think about the anatomy of the piano! Actually a lot of the time I flip an image so much I forgot which way it was originally suppose to be
@Whitney-Simms thank you Whitney. I think having some light showing through from that upper canopy is a great idea and I will explore that to see how it looks
Here is where I am at the moment. I took away the foreground trees and added a path to break up the empty foreground space and will added a couple more characters (a bunny leading some bugs with his flute) as well as some fallen leaves and acorns in later stages. I feel a bit more comfortable with the painting and although it's not there yet, all of your help is helping guide it to completion
I recently got a commission from a piano studio to do some art for their walls and for the main piece they want to have a forest scene with everyone enjoying music together. I slowly working on it and although I feel that some parts of it are working I feel that some parts are off (the pianist will have a real face later). Also I initially liked the trees in the foreground however I'm not sure how best to continue with them. Any thoughts on the piece would be appreciated
Are you breaking down an object into basic shapes, either on the paper or in your mind? That will help a lot to understand what will happen when they turn and rotate. I often use ellipses and boxes to help turn objects on the page. Practice drawing a bunch of cubes in different rotations and when you feel comfortable with those add something onto them, like a cone or a pyramid and continue rotating them. I hope that helps.
@Chip-Valecek I'm just working with the default profile settings on photoshop. One thing discovered recently though was if I go to save for web and preview using "monitor color" rather than "use document profile" then it does the yellow shift version.
Here is an example of the one uploaded to the forums and the one on my website http://www.garywilkinsonart.com/cardboard-adventures-pirate-boat
(I hope it's not just my own eyes...)
@nasvikdraws I'm sure day 9 was probably modeled on my experience last night
Thank you so much for everyone's replies and help. @smceccarelli I managed to find a couple of those posefile books for pretty cheap (perks of living in Japan) so thank you for letting me know about those and the other books!
I just noticed that when I upload images to the forum the colors move more towards yellow. Is anyone else having this issue? I did a quick google and found that it might be that the color profile is removed when uploading, but haven't found a solution to this issue yet. @Chip-Valecek do you have any thoughts on how to fix this?
I try to avoid any hard linework in my own paintings and have stopped worrying about my line quality if it won't be seen. I still need to make the design of the sketch as best as possible before coloring, but as long as I know where things will be the lines are just my guide.
I recently changed my painting process to be a bit more streamlined and faster. I start with the local colors, which I block in first on separate layers and build up the forms and light form there. I will occasionally flick on and off the linework, but once I am on stage 3 I don't really need them anymore (they are more of a hindrance than help).
All that isn't to say that line art isn't bad, it just depends on what you want your style to be. If you are going for flatter colors and less reliance on the light and shadows, then line art is going to help you more than if you are focusing on creating more 3d forms. Also remember that line art doesn't have to be black, it should be any color that suits your scene.
I wondered if someone had a good resource for finding images of children in various poses, expressions and actions. Pinterest has been quite useful, but it can be a bit time consuming to go through the useless ones and searching for specific poses of children on google is surely going to get me put on some kind of list...