Sketch vs. Finished Piece
nadyart last edited by nadyart
I often like the raw quality of a sketch. I think most sketches do not translate to the final piece 1 on 1, but there’s something quite magical about those first rough strokes that feel free. Like a child making a drawing, it is not concerned with the end result. I think this is often the charm of a sketch.
I notice I can divide my sketches in 2 ‘categories’ if you will. Sketches that are meant as preliminary work for a bigger piece. To try out the composition, values, etc. These are often rough thumbnails. But I also like to sketch more freely without a certain end goal in mind. I often prefer those sketches and they can lead into ideas for new work.
neschof last edited by
yeah, I think your definition sounds right.
If you look on Instagram though you'll often see people describing their full colour, amazing masterpieces as "just a quick warm-up sketch"
KaraDaniel last edited by
I have a hard time reading people's thumbnails unless they are fairly fleshed out. I would consider those sketches and also anything that's sort of an underlying drawing or idea. There are however some figure drawings/sketches I find very appealing as final art.
A.G.Meade last edited by
I hadn't put much thought into this before, but I think you make a good observation, @robgale. I agree with @neschof that a lot of people describe their finished work as 'sketches' in something of a misnomer.
I guess I personally view sketches as fast, incomplete works with the intent to flesh it out later or use it for study/preliminary design. Maybe another way to say it is that sketches aren't things you would put in your portfolio... or in a frame? But goodness if sketches aren't valuable! (I am a frequent, messy sketcher, myself!)
Heather Boyd last edited by
This is my take on sketches especially currently speaking. I am using them to figure out how a character is built structurally (lines and basic shapes to start) in which case I can see through them to help on later work (problem solving and showing steps), I sketch comps and values like @Braden-Hallett said, and I also have a light sketch under final work because I have yet to find the best way to transfer. I would conclude (without entirely knowing either way) that artists/illustrators etc.. who have more "sketch quality finished work" also have "sketches" differing from their ultimate final work, having worked out like already stated above what works and what doesn't (what mark making they will include etc.) and would resolve their example character in that "sketch stage". Your question is solid and helped me think through how I approach "steps".
Interesting question. For me it‘s related to the process and intention. A sketch is a preliminary version of a work for the purpose of sorting out content, composition, character and details and/or with the aim of showing it for early review before proceeding to the final piece. It does not matter if the final piece is only pencil or in full color - there will always be a step before the „final“ and that‘s what I would call a sketch.
When I sketch for myself, it‘s often just to record ideas, plan some personal work or see if an idea is interesting enough to evolve into a full illustration.
It‘s true that nice, loose dynamic sketches can be a pleasure in itself and sometimes more interesting than the final piece - keeping that energy while finishing is one of the great mystery skills that I‘m still running after.
Phil Cullen last edited by
While I was studying classical animation it was always something that we commented on. Our rough line tests always looked better than our cleaned up animations. It was the looseness and energy that was being lost when cleaning up the initial sketches. Keeping that energy and movement in the final cleaned up frames was something we always looked for.
robgale last edited by robgale
Thanks for chiming in everyone! It's been helpful. Everyone seems to agree that it's something like the the "process and intention" that @smceccarelli mentioned. Part of the reason I asked this question is that, I recently spent a TON of time on a single painting and I was really just kind of meh about its outcome. It's alright, but I like a lot of my sketches better... so it led to this question.
@Braden-Hallett Wikipedia! I didn't even think of looking there. Good call
@nadyart I really love that raw quality as well, whether they are sketches or finished pieces, and I guess, it's hard for me to tell sometimes if something that is "raw" is unfinished or not. Maybe the question should be more, something like, refined vs. "sketchy" in a final piece of art, and where does one draw the line (excuse the pun) between something that is supposed to be raw and something that is just not finished?
@neschof I hear what you're saying about people on instagram... I see this amazing painting and they call it a sketch and I'm like, man, I can't do that if I spend a month working on a single piece. Sigh.
@KaraDaniel I really like loose figure drawings as well! I've spent a lot of time painstakingly finishing drawings, and I've learned a lot, but I almost never like the refined, fully rendered pieces as much as faster, looser, more expressive pieces.
@A-G-Meade I like what you're saying about the "intent" to flesh it out later, or use it in a more considered way. There's that word intent again.
@Heather-Boyd I hear what you're saying about process here. It's almost as if the definition of a sketch is really up to the artist. A sketch is not really something that the outside world can determine, but a part of your own process, so it doesn't matter that someone's sketch looks like someone else's finished painting. I suppose there are those who might think that, say, Sarolla's paintings look like sketches compared to someone really rendered like Ingres, or David, but I don't think anyone would argue that Sarolla was just sketching!
@Phil-Cullen @smceccarelli I think that chasing after keeping the liveliness in the final piece is something that is inherent to artmaking. It seems to me we'll always be chasing it! Thanks for reminding me of that.
Thanks everyone for your responses, it's given me some things to chew on!
ArtofAleksey last edited by
this was a very interesting topic to read thank you for posting it
Heather Boyd last edited by
While in a book I found this illustration that is a sole sketch and then one that crosses over and has both. Just to add to the discussion.
This book has three illustrators, so I don’t know whose who:
Ian Andre, Nick Harris, and Helen Ward. Book is The Egyptology Handbook.