Basic Perspective Drawing class

  • @davidhohn said in Basic Perspective Drawing class:

    @BichonBistro That's kind of amazing that you were able to find a photo of a different angle of that building! Are you just familiar enough with Toronto? (only after REALLY looking at the original photo did I finally notice the Canadian flag)

    I was able to guess at the stair stepped structure because of the silhouette of the building against the sky on the upper left side. I also knew it must be at an angle because of the clear rectangular grid structure of the streets. The only way you can get that green line to a new VP ( that you drew) is if the building itself had a face that didn't line up with the street the camera is pointed down.

    Glad that this helped! Way to really dig into that particular video!

    I noticed the flag right away, but was oblivious to the silhouette of the building against the sky on the upper left 🙄
    I want to be sure I understand which planes create my green vanishing point—hope I am making my confusion clear—is it these planes (from the top view) that create that VP?

    Thanks so much for this class—I am still digging at the 1-point stage, though I watched the course through to the “multiple objects with different vanishing points”😱before going back to the beginning and doing the exercises.

  • @NessIllustration said in Basic Perspective Drawing class:

    But as a matter of fact this illustration was based on a loose 2 points perspective grid, not 1 point.


    This is the gird I used. The yellow lines will converge into one point on the outside of the canvas (sort of, again I was eyeing it) and the red lines will converge to the other point.

    This is very helpful info, as usual!

    The first photo is not a 1 point perspective, it is 2 points. You have correctly identified one of them, but there is another on the left side of the canvas. In a one point perspective, you will always see one side of the objects/buildings fully from the front. If you see a corner and both sides of the object are angled, what you have is a 2 points perspective, not 1 point.

    Oh wow, this I didn’t catch that in this photo—need to look for flat front-facing planes as the cue that it’s 1-point😕

    I would advise to refrain from looking for exercises images by yourself... You have picked illustrations that both largely cheat on perspective, which is understandably confusing you further. Photos are better for exercise, but you have picked one that is a 2 points perspective, again confusing you even more. If you must look for exercise photos, look with specific search terms like "1 point perspective example" to make sure you get a correct one. Good luck hun!

    Excellent advice—I need to find photos that are clearly identified by those who know perspective since my goal is to clearly identify vanishing points and horizon lines for each of the systems. Thanks so much!

  • @Coley said in Basic Perspective Drawing class:

    @BichonBistro I'm struggling with perspective too!!!!! I'm working through the course as well. I tried doing the final assignment and just setting up a grid was hard for me. I got something that looked like the bedroom in a two point perspective but it wasn't from the vantage point I tried to get it from lol. I wanted the camera to be on the dresser but somehow it looked like I was standing inside the closet 😂 so I have to figure this out. I'm doing better than I was last week and I'm sure you are too. I think if we're confused, at least we have something to be confused about LoL. Keep pushing until we're a little bit better! Some good advice in previous posts in this thread too!

    Oh my, I am sure I couldn’t set up a grid at this stage! I find the concept of changing camera angles SO difficult—David’s drawing of his studio from the different viewpoints is mind-boggling to me (as is Will’s ability to turn things to different angles in “Visualizing Drawing in Perspective”). I am glad to know I am not alone in the camera angle/point of view confusion! Do you have a thread of your work going through this class? I am taking baby steps to learn this skill—I look at it as the “receptive language” stage equivalent😊. If I can learn to recognize vanishing points and horizon lines (why does this seem intuitive to most artists but not to me😫), I will feel like I have made a huge leap forward.

  • @BichonBistro I started a thread but I don't think it got any replies lol. No worries, I'm doing ok on my own! Sometimes I have to figure stuff out for myself anyhow. Slowly getting there. Perspective isn't natural to me at all. All my previous paintings were done from photos so I sort of used to get away with not knowing this stuff because I relied so heavily on reference. All new, and baby steps!

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    @BichonBistro Yes. All the green lines would converge on the same green VP.

  • @Coley I get lost on the forums, so I usually only reply to things that are recent in the feed when I log on--do you remember your thread title? I would like to follow it since it sounds like we can offer each other moral support if nothing else! I have a couple of Andrew Loomis books (Creative Illustration and Fun with a Pencil) and he makes it sound so easy (but ESSENTIAL) and I find it SO challenging, I sometimes despair and often avoid, but I am going to get through this class no matter how long it takes!

  • @davidhohn Thank you! It's good to know that even though I failed to see the clues you did in the original photo that this is NOT a rectangle shaped building, I'm getting your perspective by looking at the top view. Progress!👍🏻

  • @Coley Looking back at that thread you started that I think you are referring to, I think maybe it could have just got buried and went unnoticed- that happens every once in a while and it just takes posting on it again to get some feedback. It could have also been because it looked like you did the assignment correctly and was just reporting your thoughts on it rather than asking for feedback or asking questions- and in that case people might have felt they had nothing to add to help you. I hope it doesn't keep you from making threads in the future. 🙂

    @BichonBistro Keep up the good work! Perspective can be a beast to get comfortable with. You'll get there.

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    @TessaW @Coley That's what I thought too, I went to find her thread to try to help but then saw the exercised and she aced it so there's really not much to add 🙂

  • @BichonBistro @TessaW @NessIllustration that's sweet of you guys to say! No worries, I don't always even read or comment on everyone's posts anyhow, only so much time in the day! I might update my thread at some point but much of my work is a bit rough anyhow 😜still working on making square planes and cubes, the course has been great for breaking things down and really working on the basics.

  • @BichonBistro sounds awesome. Moi aussi 😁 if I add to my post I'll tag you in it. I'm working on the final project however it's bringing up the holes in my skills again so I'm going to go back to some of the earlier assignments.
    I was working on figuring out how to make my own grid. The trick (other than figuring out where my horizon line is in relation to my image and how that impacts if I'm seeing more ground versus sky) is getting the whole square plane thing. And exact square cubes for measuring. I can see how I could be more loose with perspective in the future but at this point all this practice is helping me. I also watched the building backgrounds class with Brian ahjar ( didn't do the coursework yet). But there are pre-made room grids in there to use so I might play around with that. 🙂

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