Adobe Fresco or ProCreate?
@arent-draper Procreate definitely! but be sure to try Fresco out for free.
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I haven't tried frescoe, but I've got nothin' but good things to say about procreate. Cheap, constantly updated and a whole lot of tutorials and content.
And you sure can use text with it. I know people who manufacture their webcomics/books on procreate exclusively.
@DOTTYP Still being locked into $30/mo to use some of the programs still doesn't sound appealing, which eventually might go up. Most people I know just have the photography one for $10.
At this point I'm just waiting for programs like Affinity to catch up. Sketchbook by Autodesk is getting pretty close also.
@jdubz I know you have to think it comes to over £300 a year. I am trying to work towards an alternate for my Adobe photography plan ,Clip studio Paint is really good for painting and a lot of people seem to like Artstudio on Ipad. Why do you think Sketchbook is good ?
@DOTTYP Sketchbook is, in my opinion, the absolute best free painting app that exists. The brushes feel extremely similar to Photoshop, and making brushes is easier than Photoshop in my opinion. The workflow is also pretty similar in how the layering and layer modes work. Plus, there are a ton of brush packs for free out there.
It's also free for both desktop AND iPad, meaning you have instant continuity.
What it lacks are a lot of features for text and photo manipulation and tools that PS has built over the years, but for a raw drawing app I'd say you could easily push out professional finished pieces on it.
@jdubz Thanks I do have free Sketchbook you have reminded me to give it another chance
@DOTTYP Check out this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVEnhh7YNCg&t=417s and you can see some of the workflow for coloring, and there are some other vids from that same guy that talk about how to make brushes also. It's a good place to start.
@jdubz Thanks Josh the video looks really useful
MirkaH last edited by
I use Procreate and love it. I uploaded aa youtube video how to export full picutre book dummies last week and posted a link for the forum. Now i dont need InDesign to do that anymore. Ive tried adobes sketch program, but it was so limited compared to Procreate. And procreate is rolling out a new update soon and it will be even better. They have my vote hands down.
I'll add my 2¢ to the chorus: Procreate all the way.
I tried Adobe Fresco as part of my CC subscription. It does a few things very beautifully--watercolor and oils, specifically. The larger brushes seem to have a lot of lag, of course, so it's not a perfectly fluid experience. But it's hard to argue with the results.
That being said, Procreate has ways of rendering specific aspects of those mediums just as nicely if you know how to do it. What you lose in depth you gain in versatility and breadth of capacity. There is not another app out there that can do as much as Procreate in the way it does it for the amount of money it costs (Affinity Designer & Photo do more but they are more expensive and have a less robust brush engine). Hands down, Procreate is clearly the industry standard for art on the iPad, as much as other apps might have a huge following.
And it is soon going to be capable of doing even more than it can already. Updates are free. $10 forever. Adobe Fresco cannot make that claim. It appears Adobe will require an overpriced subscription fee to use it after 6 months, and it's necessary to download and switch between their multiple apps to do most of what Procreate can do all by itself. Plus, the promised "Photoshop for iPad" to be released this year seems to be woefully incomplete (many are speculating Apple pushed Adobe to make the announcement to increase sales for their new iPads). In short, I don't have faith that Adobe will develop Fresco further than its current state.
Give Procreate a shot. It's as expensive as a fast food meal. And it won't increase your cholesterol.
I've been testing Adobe Fresco for a while now. It's definitely getting better all the time, I love all the different brushes and it syncs well with photoshop. The developers keep adding stuff and updating it. Users suggest what they want added and there is a forum voting to bump up the most urgent features. Like they are just about to add a ruler for drawing straight lines in the next update.
With regards to the subscription model, this hasn't been decided yet as a lot of users complained about charging extra for those that have the photography sub. I'm hoping they will also have an option for people to buy it as a standalone app.
I've barely used procreate so I can't compare the two.
For the price. I’d go with procreate.
@MirkaH "Now i dont need InDesign to do that anymore." - Just FYI for anyone that want to do this also on a desktop, make sure you look at Affinity Publisher. $50 for a license and you own it forever and it comes with updates. It's completely replaced my multi-page publishing and it can handle anything most of us are doing easily.
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Personally, I love the UI of Procreate. It does what its supposed to do, stays out of the way and just works. I've been using it since my second generation iPad and generally love it for painting/illustration work.
That said...I've been making an intentional effort to learn the Adobe products, because it's included in the CC stuff I'm already paying for, so I've been using Fresco foe a few weeks now. It's by far the best version of all of their offerings. The watercolor and live brushes features are nice, but the ability to export to vector is huge. When using Procreate I kept having to jump into Photoshop, then tighten up the layers, and then vectorize each piece back in Illustrator for reassembly. If you're doing any large format or logo work it saves all kinds of time.
I guess it just comes down to what you want to use it for.
I've been looking at artworker design jobs and they all ask for photoshop, indesign and illustrator skills. Is procreate, affinity, artstudio, clip studio paint classed as professional software? Do design studios accept them on a CV/resume?
@sigross In the professional world, you will 100% need to know Adobe products inside and out (at least the ones you will be working directly with other people in). The main reason is the ubiquity of Adobe products forces your hand in this area.
So, the answer is "it depends". If you're an illustrator, and your job is to deliver a final product, those programs you mentioned are fully capable of producing a final shipped product. If your reputation is amazing bird pictures, and someone contracts you to make bird pictures, which you deliver in the specs they need then no one will be asking what program you're using except maybe curiosity. Or let's say I'm a UI designer, and my job is to go through revisions and finally deliver assets to a client for their mobile app project. A program like Affinity designer can 100% get me there.
That said, are you working on a team? Are you going to be sent files in PSD or AI formats? Are you expected to work with assets in these formats and send files back in something someone else needs? Does the client require original formats to be delivered as part of the deliverables?
In both team and freelance situations it can matter. Probably much more so if you're going to work in an actual studio. Crossing platforms may be difficult, and it can really frustrate a team if you're consistently having problems with formatting inconsistencies. Even if you knew Affinity for example and could bang out the same quality as the Adobe folks, they're still going to want you to use Adobe and know it because everyone else is using it.
CatOnPaper last edited by CatOnPaper
Hi Arent! Hi all!
The short answer:
Try them all!
I believe the most important thing is to understand what illustrating a book requires down to the very end of a project.
And for that, asking the right questions will give you the right answer.
I'd say procreate for now.. fresco later (1-2years)
the elaborated answer:
Procreate has been around for quite a while and built it's 'self' from the ground straight for ios.
It recently added text features and is continuously growing to bring very soon animation features too! not sure how big you can go in size in case you ever want to illustrate a huge poster or so... but yeah, it's an amazing app.
Fresco has been developed with the help of Kyle T.Webster, a guy I respect for the amazing brushes he created for Photoshop. my life changed since I bought his megapack and now photoshop has bought him.
you can find the same brushes as in PS and has a few amazing features like being able to mix colors. With all that respect though, Fresco has a long way till it will stand up on its feet as a self-sustainable app you can use from start to the end in a project.
I am relying on clipping masks in my workflow and Fresco is not supporting that so I had to rethink my way to achieve a result...
It's cool but not as good just yet...
It is free for 6 months, time in which they'll probably bring it to a more pro version of what's now.
full PS for iPad is coming soon and I hear it's going to miss a lot of features in the beginning...
I get the vibe though that Adobe still wants you to use more than just one app/program so they can make a buck.
I'll stay with Photoshop CC from the Adobe's Photo pack for now, on a surface pro 4 that I bought for mobility and now I'm constantly plugged in for better performance...
paint and love
@jdubz yes I had the feeling I'd need to learn Adobe to get a job in a team. I've got skills in photoshop, premiere pro and some in illustrator. But haven't learnt indesign yet. I'm learning that next. Adobe do dominate the market.
@sigross You'll have it down really fast. Most of the features translate from the other apps. The only real difference is getting familiar with the publishing view that has a lot of pages and exporting.