Help with another painting, please- Bambi
mattramsey last edited by
Hmmm...not sure if it's the fact that the bunny's head is mounted that is making it creepy.
In fact, I'd say it is the fact that the animals are "sorta" looking at the viewer or boy...it is kinda ambiguous where they are looking honestly.
It would possibly be less creepy if you just had the animals staring ahead (to the left of the frame).
However, even then, I can't decide if the boy is looking up with tears welling up in his eyes or is like "hey...wait a sec..." which is kinda funny--but still kinda sad.
It could be that the overall color pallet lends itself to a melancholy feel.
Personally, I think the ottoman is good as is. In fact, I think you've mastered form, lighting and material on 90% of this piece. It's just incredibly good.
The one crit I would have is that the animals themselves are coming across a little "fake"--not sure if that's the right word. For example, the deer neck (which comes across as very long, imo--maybe shorten a tad?) appears to be made of a smooth material rather than short fur.
But this is just so great overall. Portfolio piece for sure.
TessaW last edited by TessaW
@mattramsey Thank you! Very helpful insights.
What do you think of this direction? Yay, or nay? I've also tried to make the boy a bit older looking.
I agree with most of the replies here. It looks kinda creepy (wich I love by the way). To me, is that the animals in the wall look too "alive", their heads appears to be bending to face the viewer, and they should be facing the same direction as the wall they're mounted in. And maybe the deer neck should be a little shorter?. Besides that I love the composition and colors (maybe try warmer color composition too?) and the detail of the NES console!!
PS: this is just nitcpicking, but it would be really cool if you could bend the tv image and add some effect too make it look like an old TV a little more
aska last edited by
@tessw its fantastic. I love the subject. My friend is a hunter and its one thing i dont like about him. I dont understand this 'sport':( Anyway, if i was picky, i would replace the bunny with a different animal (who puts bunnies on the wall anyway?;) and i would make the animals look straight so not at the boy nor the viewer, but just at opposite wall. This could create and intimate atmosphere, where the boy realises the horrible truth and perhaphs feels sorry for the animals. Anyway, its really well painted:)
The ottoman is fine, maybe experiment with angle of its position to have eye drawn back into the piece. Also, animal ornaments might add a different feel of creepy if they faced straight ahead and looked down from the corner of their eyes and/or glowed rather than facing their heads towards the boy. Just an idea to play with. Love the colors!
TessaW last edited by
Thanks for the additional feedback. I will work on the anatomy of the deer once I get things figured out more.
An earlier color comp
@tessw for me I liked what you had going in that very first post. But I also like this color comp you have with the brighter colors. I think it actually leans more the comedy end of things with the reds and oranges. Maybe even a shot gun or hunting riffle hanging on the wall over the TV. Could go farther even. He's sitting on bear skin rug. Some kind of pelt draped over the chair.
I think A looks awesome.
@tessw Did you try playing with smaller pupils in comp B? To show more of the whites of the eyes? I'm only focused on them because I am reading your composition as such that the main focal point of this piece is the eye connection/exchange between the boy and the ornament? Therefore, we want to make sure we really hit home with that portrayal. What you ultimately decide on is up to you.
MissMarck last edited by
I love love love B! I think those colors (combined with the TV) give the effect of "did I really see that" that the boy is probably experiencing. I imagine him turning off the TV and the deer is back to normal... did it really move, or did he imagine it?
This is awesome! So funny too. I think anything extra is unecessary as it might draw the viewer away from the deer and bunny on the wall, they are important to the piece, of course. It's amazing, Tess!!!! I love that it's a deer and a rabbit on the wall and it cracks me up. Poor Bambi...my nieces used to talk about that all teh time. Their dad was a deer hunter and they never wanted to eat the venison because of the Bambi movie. I'm not sure how kids will view it, depends on the kid I'm sure. I think it's beautifully done!
@evilrobot I didn't see the other ones before but, I agree with you that it's less creepy with the colors.
I like B the most. I agree with the mounting of a rabbits head, you wouldn't see that. But you would see a rabbits foot, like a key chain. Maybe have that resting on the floor next to the boy. I love the colors on it, keep it blue. Great piece overall.
I like B! I like the expression in the eyes, it reads to me like the deer is slightly surprised, but also a little concerned for the boy, like she is worried about the up coming moment of trauma "You okay Kid?" (I have to interject while you can hunt doe during certain times of the year, it is not something a hunter would usually mount as a trophy on the wall. But I think its hilarious anyways.)
I would also love to see some more toys/things on the floor. This painting make me want to explore the environment.
Also, this make me think of Stranger Things.
gubhart last edited by
I like the deer in B but I also feel the rabbit gives it a bit more of a humorous feel, certainly made me laugh! Either way it looks amazing.
Jose Ramos last edited by
I liked your first one concept, but with the deer of B version...maybe if you put the same expresion in the rabbit could be great...more details in the room like tv antenna, blanket on the couch..or a teddy bear on the left sofa.
TessaW last edited by TessaW
@evilrobot Thanks! I was toying with the idea of a bear skin rug and a gun actually. I'll think about it!
@Jason-Bowen Thanks for your input!
@harveywalls I will try it out and post it later. Thanks for the eye suggestion. I was playing with the eyes earlier and couldn't get it to look quite right, but your suggestion helped steer me in the right direction.
@MissMarck Oooo, that's a cool interpretation!
@Marsha-Kay-Ottum-Owen Thank you! Yes, that's the spirit of what I was going for. . . how we humanize animal characters so much and then hunt or eat them. It's strange telling your kid that bacon came from a pig, right after watching a movie with a talking pig in it.
@Chip-Valecek Thanks, Chip!
@stringfellowart Thank you. I was wondering about the antler thing. I wasn't sure where to go with that since bambi doesn't have antlers and I thought antlers might make it too scary. When I was researching hunting trophies, it looks like some people do have doe trophies, but it is often paired with a buck. What do you think? Would it be better to add antlers? What if the antler's where on the smaller side?
@gubhart Thank you. I was hoping that the rabbit would amp up the humor, cause it's sort of ridiculous to mount a rabbit like that, but it seems to turn a lot of people off!
@Jose-Ramos Great ideas, thank you!
These were kind of my inspirations for the bunny, btw. Aren't they cute, even though it's kind of disturbing?
Lynda_Percival last edited by
I love this so much! I really liked your first one with the inclusion of the bunny. I love dark humor, though. I love the deer's expression in "B" and think it would be great on the bunny, too.
Mostly I just want to say I love it! The color (colder, creepier tones), the cute/dark/funny combo, all of it. Can't wait to see what you decide.
tombarrettillo last edited by
without reading everyone's replies, I vote for your first version. The animals need to be as realistic as the boy, and you lose that in the version with the standing rabbit.
I would make the ottoman a coffee table with a few nick nacks, or maybe show the parents legs on a couch. I like the antenna or rabbit ears on the TV as someone mentioned. The panelling should continue behind the TV. Maybe a window with late 70's curtains on that wall.
Another idea would be to lose the rabbit and have a buck and doe on the wall.
Fantastic painting, I really like the concept. Amazing rendering, my only comments would be to try and have the boy looking up a bit more maybe you could do this with the angel of the ears and I don't think you need the rabbit, but that is just me- fantastic work on rendering and light