I am just going to start posting outload. Feel free to stop me and insert your thoughts at anytime.
Ok, so now that my place is unpacked, and I have a week under my belt at my new job I can finally get back to this.
The issues I have had with this piece are my design and my values. My design issues are rooted in some bad habbits I have created over the last year. They began when I was able to save many of my drawings in the end by adding in elements that were not there in the earlier design, and I started leaning on this with confidence, but here it resulted in a botched piece. I also have known in the back of my mind that this is a bad habbit that digital has somewhat allowed me to fall into.
My other issue is understanding values. I don’t know if values have to do with lighting or color. When I do a black and white image, I am only thinking about shadows and depth. In my mind darker value are in the foreground and fade as things get further back, and if it is a darker scene that would be reverse. This might be wrong, but my limited understanding of values has forced me into these two seperate ideas. I also use a lot of light sources to make things more interesting value wise, and it seems to have been a winning formula so far.
As for this piece, snow has really thrown be for a loop. In my brain I know snow is white, and at the same time I do the values the same way I always do, but since I do not understand how value and color works vs value and light, the values in this piece change as I add more color to the snow.
So what I need to do is start over, and resdesign the drawing, since it is definitely something I need to pin point and get right first. So that will be my next few posts, and I will go over what I am thinking as I take into consideration what needs to be changed and added in.
I’ve asked this before and I think Lee White answered on the forums, but I would love to hear from everyone.
What was the first book you worked on, and what was that experience like? Is there anything you would go back and do differently now, and did you feel as though you were qualified to do it at the time?
Sorry for not updating in the last few days. We just moved, and I also started a new job, so this week is quite busy.
In related news, I took this job and moved in order to be able to fully support myself while moving forward with my art in hopes of getting into picture books as a career.
I will be finishing this piece asap. Thanks again for all of the help and encouragement
Thanks for all the encouragement everyone!! I really do appreciate it. A year and a half ago when I signed up for SVS I had no clue about that I was such a emotional weirdo when it comes to my art. Not until I started taking it seriously did I start to go through so many ups and downs.
With that said here is the basic concept for the piece now. It may seem like it is on a similar track as before, but what I had done to it since showing everyone last was add in some elf luke characters that just didn’t look right, and the mountains and clouds just weren’t working. No matter how many times I reworked them, it just seemed off. So after starting back up a couple nights ago, and with the idea in my head to dedicate this to the SVS forums, I thought the rabbit theme was a good idea which somewhat represent the mascot of SVS, and I wanted it to reflect some sort of colloboration from a team, and those looking on to see if what I was working on could be finished. So, this is just the monochrome value, and the color is what I am starting on right now.
So I gave up on my slowvember tonight. After weeks of work on it, and reworking in numerous times, even going as far as trashing about 30 hours of work and starting over, I just can’t get it to work. The design is bad, and I can’t rescue it. This is one of the big problems I have with my art. I worry that if I ever get a gig, I won’t be able to see the problems with an image until it is too late. Anywho. Tired of being frustrated and coming back to an image I just can’t work out. I need to start on something new to get my mojo back.
I’ve been super sick, so I am just now getting back to this. Here is somewhat of a color and texture test run. I love using watercolor scans to relay distance, and sometimes it gives a nice relationship to different shapes, but much of it is me just trying things in a chaotic way until something pops out at me. This still isn’t fully working imho, but I do like the lighting from some sort of object in the foreground. It somewhat sets the scene, so I most likely will go with that.
This is something I seriously need to be a part of. Hopefully my new job situation will be settled by the time registration for the book cover class is open.
Glad you liked the post. For me when I joined SVS I was very lost, but slowly over time started to pick up on the steps. Once I figured that out it became easier and easier. The steps as I see them and where I learned them are:
1-Thumbnails - Creative Composition class
2- value thumbnails - lighting for picture books (I think that is what it is called)
3- Drawing - how to draw everything/creative envirements/ postering characters (as well as watching Lee White’s process of going from the drawing stage to final)
4- color value - painting in acrylics with Will Terry
5- coloring the image - color classes/ lighting.
Between each of these I have just watched the teachers do their thing in different videos and have pretty much stolen their process to some extent.
This is the longest I have worked on any image since joining SVS. It is somewhat a weird mental challenge for me to not stay on a weekly schedule, because I feel like I might fall out of my comfort zone. I usually have a scheduled process, which divides different phases throughout the week, and I create due dates for myself. I’ve noticed that this process for me since joining SVS has produced good results, kinda like a workout routine. However, with Slowvember being the goal I have broken my schedule, and now where i would be on my third day, I am two weeks in. Here has been my process
Here is the thumbnail I made. I only care about placement and very basic values. I just want to see if the shapes are interesting and the lighting creates a good mood that I can glare at and see somewhat of some potential.
From here I moved onto a more strict value drawing.
Once I decided that it was working, I moved into the drawing phase. This is where I lean more towards Lee White in his preperation even though my style is much different. I really just want to know how the shapes will be, and make sure that there are no tangents.
Then to the final drawing. I moved away from having the characters in this image, and have gone a different way. I sometimes don’t even think about what is going on in my images until late in the process for some reason.
Then I checked my values again to make sure they still work on this scale
I didn’t go to finish in that last value drawing, because I felt like I had what I wanted.
So my next step is to start a value drawing in a color scale. I think of this like the main key a song is in, then when I color it I am going to just lightly drape the colors I want over the main color to create some color relationship. I learned this from watching Will Terry’s painting with acrylics.
And this is where I am at atm. I am still in the value stage, and have yet to really apply focus, color, characters etc. I will keep updating as I go.
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